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Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-06 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Slipped away for a month whilst I finished off my Uni essays, but back now whilst I polish off my dissertation.

Eponine - gardienne

Calico - riptheseams
Edited 2013-07-06 22:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] akingalways 2013-07-07 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Well, here I go! *takes a deep breath* Going to address Calico, since my players haven't really conversed with Eponine.

While I do fairly enjoy the conversations that Calico has had with Jack, and we do get to see the contentious, complicated relationship they have, I am a little confused about some stuff regarding how you play her, as opposed to how you originally portrayed her. I hope you don't mind me saying, and given she's an OC, might seem strange, but I think it does need to be said: I don't think you're playing Calico ICly. At all.

Let me explain. According to what her application says (and before anyone outside of Lili asks why I even bothered to read Calico's app at all! It is because I used Cal's application as necessary reading for Jack and as a means to build his own history, as he is also a District 8 Mentor), she's generally level-headed, bubbly personality, and while she's a pistol, she knows better. She's savvy enough to know what she needs to do to keep under the radar for the most part, and able to conceal her true feelings about the Capitol relatively well, particularly after her first run in with the Peacekeepers. While she does have rebellious tendencies, she was supposed to have learned her lesson on why its a bad thing to refuse things like Sponsors.

But that's not how you've been playing her. You've been playing her almost the exact opposite, even before Eva's betrayal of Ariadne - she disparages Sponsors, tells people not to support certain Tributes in her own District, gets drunk and sloppy, and does crazy things for people she barely knew, even openly showing rebellious tendencies and breaking off long-standing relationships while letting her feelings get the better of her. Granted, I can understand Cal being angry at Eva and severing the relationship, but the way she went about it makes no sense in light of what you claim her personality to be. She may be blunt, yes, but she's also supposed to be savvy enough, even in the heat of the moment, to know that calling someone a traitor and insinuating that she told that character secrets that could get her in trouble? Is a bad thing to do.

It just feels like Calico is supposed to be one thing, but you play her the opposite a lot of the time, and I'm not sure why this is. If its for the sake of plot, that's fine, but for me, the plot that you've got Calico in right now, with her being in the custody of the Capitol, makes no sense in light of what you've said and what we're supposed to know about her, ICly and OoCly.
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[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-07 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
I do get what you're saying - and Calico has seemed off kilter to me as well. Which is partially why I have encouraged this plot with her - to get her back in line. After this, she is gonna be scared straight and go back to trying to be giggly.

Cal is always supposed to have had rebellious tendancies; her parents - in the app - whisper a lot and have meetings - so she's always had that in the background. And her blunt nature DOES make her question things. And she is supposed to have been fond of a drink - though NOT drinking to stop her speaking out of turn. Cal can keep it together whilst she's sober.

The tributes she doesn't want to help: Holiday punched her when Cal tried to send her to bed, and Topher just refuses to respect her because of the Capitol rumours. She has tried to go to Timaeus and secure general sponsorship for the district - and taken cakes to sweeten him up.

Right now, I know she's not behaving in her sweet, giggly, kinda way. It's kinda unfortunate that I re-introduced her when I did, as theplot has definitely affectedher personality in ways I didn't consider. I mesn, her first re-intro thread, she's giggling with Eva about male Tributes and sponsors. I think before that, she had been intro'd completely at Timaeus' party and then maybe rolled her eyes on Jack's intro. And I know it's not as ostentatious as Jack's Director, her last absence was explained with her being with Trimlachio, a Capitol citizen and sponsor. Always she'll tell Jack she was away or partying or anything but admit to being a Capitol toy. She whines at him enough for it, afterall! She might do it - but she still feels a duty of care to Jack and hates to see him used in such a manner.

Eva's friendship has meant a lot to Cal; she was ripped from her home at 14 and was given a low odds of winning. She knows she should be dead. And because she's asked questions, she isn't really allowed back to the district, even before this plot, so growing up, Eva became mother, sister, friend. A reliable face amongst the millions who died. And Cal willhave shared alot. She is TERRIFIED that Eva will blab about her. As for Ariadne - she is one of the Victors. She's supposed to be a new consistant - and it's been made very, very apparent that this stability that Cal has clung to - almost like a family - has been ripped from her. Cal's reaction to Ariadne is more a reaction to Eva; had Eva betrayed Wesker or Momoko or one of the old Victors, Cal would have done almost exactly the same. As far as she knows, Eva's shown her true colours and turned Cal's world upside down. It's an ostentatious, albeit silly show that not all mentors are like Eva, that she won't be a traitor. And because she thinks Eva has told her secrets, it makes her just a little reckless. In the arena, she hunted the bear that mauled her friend and killed it. Not for the meat or the fur, though she used those later, but because the bear had effectively left Calico alone in the woods. She forgot the Games, didn't think about other Tributes, until that bear was gone.

And just as she screamed and cried and tried to run away at her Reaping, this is her doing exactly the same all over again. Unlike Eponine, Cal is well aware of the barrier - she knows she can't actually run anywhere. As Topher said, she is just as much a prisoner as the Tributes are. And suddenly, she feels very, very alone. She kinda feels like the world's against her a little bit; Eva's turned, Victor's been killed - and with what Cal has spoken about with Eva over the years, she is terrified that she'll be next. And that is not something she wants to tell Jack about as they're almost completely opposite in their Capitol views. She's scared Eva will tell about the murmurs Cal had heard in District 8 as a kid and the retributions from that. She's just scared, plain and simple. And rather than doing the sane thing and keeping a clear head, she drinks because she wants to forget Eva. And that name is gonna be a hard one to forget.

I hope this kinda explains where I'm coming from with Cal, and the reasons why she is behaving this way. It's unfortunate that I had the break away so I couldn't show Cal in her more happy go lucky persona. I am aware that she does seem a little off though - and I do want to use this plot to get her back to her bubbly self. From now on, she will definitely be trying - and hopefully mimicking Jack in his views to make sure she's got it right.
Oh gosh though, I am so sorry if I have made no sense. Maybe a post like this in her journal, explaining her motives and where she's coming from, might have been wise. But thank you for saying that, because I know it does seem off considering she is supposed to know how to work in the Capitol. And usually she does. Perhaps I ought not to have plunged straight into this plot line, considering she had been absent for awhile whilst Uni ate me. It might have been better to have her try to ignore or keep quiet and sew sew sew. I dunno. It just seemed to me, and especially because Eva was the instigator, the right thing to do. Anyone else, she might have been able to ignore - but not Eva. Anyway, thanks for letting me explain where I'm coming from, and I'm really sorry if it hasn't been clear or caused confusion. But if you do have questions for me, either now or in the future, hit me up! I think anon is off in her journal if you prefer and -well, ip isn't but I dunno how to do that, and as if I'm gonna hunt you down through that! Or plurk - whatever! I am really sorry if she has seemed ooc - but hpefully, she will be back to normal and taking her feelings out on feathers and sequins very soon.

Also - sorry for typos - I'm on my phone and touchscreen sucks!
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] splendid_roman 2013-07-07 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
I like all the details you put about Eponine into your tags. I feel like I know a lot about her, even though I don't know her canon.
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-07 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I like exploring Eponine's psyche - and she does have a habit of random chatter. She likes to talk about herself a lot - which is a funny trait that I like to try to bring out. Even in poverty, she's still the self centred little Madam she was brought up to be.
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] shinyisfalse 2013-07-08 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I really love reading any of Eponine's threads, and I hope that I can thread with her sometime soon with either Peeta or Cindy. Don't care which, I just think you have such a good grasp on her character, and any headcanon just. Fits perfectly, too. She's fun to read.

I also like Calico as a character. I don't actually know too much about her to tell if she's been ooc or ic lately, but I loved her conversations with Peeta, and he feels like he's found a friend in her, which is a good thing for him to have. So, yes, you're playing really well!
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-08 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the compliments for Eponine. I worry about her, I do. Her voice never seems quite right - I've been playing her for so long, I always feel that her voice is getting further and further away from the Brick. And when I read like, Marius and Enjolras, and their prose is so learned and flowery - well, Eponine just isn't. But I think that's ok - she's a much plainer character than either Marius or Enjy. What I'm trying to say is, thank you for the reassurance.
She's in the arena right now - but I am definitely up for more CR - with either/both! I dunno Cindy, but I love how you write Peeta! You've actually made me like him more than I like him in the book!

As for Cal - well, in her app, I said that she tries to be happy and slap a smile on her face - and generally knows not to shout off about the Capitol so that her parents aren't hurt. Obviously, I hadn't anticipated this plot, or even her close friendship with Eva when I wrote the app, and didn't acknowledge how much finding out her friend is a traitor would affect Cal. She's terrified because she's confided a lot in Eva these last 13 years - and told Eva about the rebellion whispers she had heard as a child in District 8 as a kid - which is in her app. If Eva's a mole, what's to stop her telling the Capitol everything and what is to stop them from executing Cal? So she's terrified and mouthing off about Eva and trying to show that she is not like Eva to her tributes, and she's drinking heavily, which lowers her control and makes her more mouthy - again characteristics in her app - and she's becoming reckless - a trait she showed in her arena when she hunted the bear. Her reaction is against Eva rather than the Capitol itself. The Capitol and Ariadne are basically incidental to her reaction.

I dunno. I understand where the criticism is coming from, and I accept that she is not acting, right now, as I thought she would. But I wrote the app in a 'normal' time in the Capitol - and this is quite extraordinary. Her world is crumbling around her and she has no idea what to do. And so I think that her actions are justified. It IS there in her app - just, perhaps, not spelled out very clearly, which is more a fault of my app writing than anything. I dunno. She'll be going back to sequins and sticky gems soon.

I'm glad you enjoy her though, and she will definitely be needing a friend - especially with Eva out of the picture. So expect one clingy, bouncy, pretending-to-be-happy traumatised mentor seeking Peeta out soon!

Also, I am sorry for wittering for so long!
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] shinyisfalse 2013-07-09 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely understand the concern with Eponine (you're the one who played her at SP, right? Or was that someone else?), but I think you're doing a good job. Especially with an Enjolras and Marius here, because yeah, you're right, she's not a flowery prose character. She feels very raw when I read her stuff? And that's what she is, she's a person, not an ideal, if that makes sense. I don't know, I just think you do a very good job with her, and I would love to get CR with either of my people with her! Cindy would understand her really well, actually... so would Peeta, but I'm really happy to hear that I've made you like him. I try hard, making sure he's not just the way he is when he's around Katniss, like in the books, since he's also a person, not just an ideal.

I am very okay with a clingy Calico xD Like I said, I can't crit too much with her because I don't know how things go and stuff, I just know I've enjoyed my threads with her. And I'm sorry for talking so much, too!
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-09 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I played her at SP - who did you play? Or am I being an eejit and forgetting someone really obvious?
I've trawled her through quite a few games now;I've been playing her for about 5 years and I dunno. After a while, her voice starts to kinda get - squished, if you know what I mean?

Yes, your Peeta is VERY likeable! It's funny - I love the premise of the 'Hunger Games' - the world - but I find it hard to like the characters - especially Katniss, but Prim and Peeta too. But all three of you do a good job here to make them, not only playable but a JOY to play with!
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] shinyisfalse 2013-07-10 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Being an eejit, I'm afraid xD I played Raul Creed, Mr. Gold, Dr. Tenma, Tim Drake... a bunch of people! But yeah, it can be worrying once you've played someone for so long. I do think you're doing a pretty good job, though.

We're definitely doing it right then! I'm glad that you like him. I love the series, the premise, but I know I was iffy with some of the characters when I first started. Katniss in particular, but... we've got some good players, here, it makes it a lot more fun.
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] iselldrugstothecommunity 2013-07-09 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
You know how I feel about you, but I have really loved our CR (all of it) and how considerate you are as a player. I love that you give excellent prose in a timely manner and really explore what's going on inside Eponine's head. I feel like the changes she's going through are natural, especially given the amount of stress she's under and the nature of the Games and her relationships with others, including Howard. I really like how Calico is just bursting with personality and how game you are to have her take consequences. And I love our Howponine ship, even if they're ICly on the rocks.

<3
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Re: Eponine and Calico

[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-09 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwwwwwwwww thank you honey. With Cal - what's the point of playing if you're not going to take consequences? I just hope that, somehow, she and Eva can begin to rebuild their relationships. After all of this, it's her friendship that Cal will miss the most, and will be wishing she still had so she could lean on her.

Howponine - awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Not gonna lie; I love it and miss it. Though her being stuck in the middle of two men is quite a nice change as well! I hope they can get to the friend stage - maybe after the arena, he'll realise how many people she tried to persuade to get him to win. Maybe!
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[personal profile] brentwood 2013-07-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops, sorry for the late comment! I know we've only once threaded with Tiny and Eponine (which is a thread I still need to reply to), but I absolutely adore their interaction already. Eponine's thoughts are clearly laid out and her voice just rings true to what little I know about the character. I think you're doing really well there, and while I don't know Calico at all, it's a real pleasure to be playing with you.
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[personal profile] gardienne 2013-07-10 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Awww thank you. I love Tiny Tim too. I think he needs to teach her some more whiggerty-whackerty slang so she can confuse everyone (especially as she's corrupting the slang anyway)! I hope we can have lots and lots more threads!
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[personal profile] orestes 2013-07-13 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
Gosh, where to start.

Your Eponine is great. Amy hit the nail on the head when she said that your writing of her feels raw, and not in a bad way. It's incredibly appropriate to the character and I think you convey her good and bad qualities equally, and make her simultaneously almost frightening and fail, which is something that always struck me about her in the Brick. It's good stuff and I'm glad we're finally having the opportunity to log a little more.

On a particularly nerdy note, I'm really enjoying these Argot lessons. I keep trying to articulate how I feel about that long and dissolving into just "yes good", pft.

Anyway, it's awesome. Keep it up! c: